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Acknowledgments to Barking Moonbats; original from Blogs for Bush.

Following a link from that entry on Blogs for Bush, I found…

Later edit, 08/05: screen captures of the DNC 2004 site that acknowledged relationship with MoveOn.org…now since lost in server relocations since first published in August 2004. My apologies because they were straightforward evidence of the relationship that both the campaign and MoveOn.org insisted didn’t exist. At least from this present day of 2005, it’s not so significant to evidence that they were both wrong so much as it is important to remember that they were.

I regret from a point of history having lost those screen captures but an article by NewsMax.com from August 2004 about this issue is still available.

21 C O M M E N T S

  1. -S- says:

    I don’t seem to get the point that is being made there…some clarification?

  2. justaguy says:

    Fundraising email from Terry McAuliffe states that Kerry campaign is “partnering with MoveOn.org”.

    From: “Terry McAuliffe”
    To: X
    Cc:
    Subject: Action Alert: Contact Congress This Wednesday
    Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 17:45:39 -0500

    Dear X,
    Last week, I told you how the Democratic Party is partnering with MoveOn.org, People for the American Way, Campaign for America’s Future, and dozens of other groups representing millions of Americans to organize a massive public mobilization opposing the irresponsible Bush tax scheme. On Wednesday, May 14, I’m asking you to join hundreds of thousands of activists across the nation as we call our members of Congress to stand up in opposition to the Bush plan to give billions in new tax breaks to the wealthiest sliver of Americans.

    Click here to get contact information for your Senators and Representatives and call and email them this Wednesday.
    Key Points to Make When you call and email your members of Congress, be sure to mention the following important points:
    The tax cuts in the Bush plan overwhelmingly benefit the wealthiest sliver of Americans, providing little relief to most working families.
    The Bush plan does nothing to help states confront their worst fiscal crisis since World War II. States have been forced to cut vital programs — for education, health care, homeland security, and more — and even raise taxes on working families. The irresponsible Bush tax scheme will create enormous new debts for the next generation. Democrats in Congress have introduced a real stimulus plan that will get our economy moving again, with targeted tax breaks, aid for cash-strapped states and small businesses, and an extension of unemployment benefits.
    You can make a difference by calling and emailing your members of Congress today. Click here to get contact information for your Senators and Representatives and let them know that you oppose the irresponsible Bush tax scheme and support the sensible, effective Democratic stimulus plan.

    Sincerely,

    Terence R. McAuliffe
    Chairman

  3. justaguy says:

    It’s in regards to…

    “There is no V device for a Silver Star. The award is only awarded for valor in combat just like the Navy Cross and the CMH. Whoever wrote the “V device” citation didn’t know the rules. A politician maybe……?”

  4. justaguy says:

    They also put the cleaned up documents for the first time in that thread. The also discuss it further …the V….in…

    http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2463

    It’s amazing how the media isn’t covering this…actually I’m not shocked.

  5. justaguy says:

    Who really has ties to “shadowy groups?”

    Kerry hires online chief from MoveOn

    From John Mercurio
    CNN Political Unit
    Wednesday, April 7, 2004 Posted: 3:53 PM EDT (1953 GMT)

    WASHINGTON (CNN) — John Kerry has hired an Internet-savvy Democrat to run his presidential campaign’s online communications, a move that raises new questions about the link between his campaign and the independent groups that run TV ads on his behalf.

    Zach Exley, the director of special projects for the MoveOn PAC, is going to the Kerry campaign to become its director of online communications and organization.

    Exley also worked during the Democratic presidential primary for Howard Dean, helping Dean set up his web-based organization.

    Since Kerry became the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee in early March, the MoveOn PAC has spent more than $2.5 million on TV ads that attack President Bush.

    But under the new campaign-finance law, those efforts cannot be coordinated with the Kerry campaign.

    A MoveOn statement said Exley and the staff of all MoveOn entities have agreed that they will not be in contact through the election period to avoid the appearance of coordination, “even though federal election rules permit some forms of communication.”

    MoveOn has spent roughly $17 million on ads since it started running its “misleader” campaign against Bush last year.

    Republicans said Exley’s move reinforces their accusations that Kerry and his Democratic allies are circumventing the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law they fought so hard to enact. (GOP challenges anti-Bush ads)

    “It’s another example of the coordination between MoveOn.org and the Kerry campaign that is illegal under campaign finance law,” a Bush campaign official said.

    “The Media Fund and MoveOn are functioning as Kerry’s slush fund, a shadow Democratic Party that’s illegally using soft dollars.”

    MoveOn became the subject of controversy early this year when it posted two ads on its Web site that compared Bush to Adolf Hitler. The ads were submitted to the group as part of a contest to produce anti-Bush commercials, and Republican Chairman Ed Gillespie said Exley dismissed Republican complaints about them with a barnyard expletive.

    “In addition to the obvious questions his hiring raises about further illegal coordination between the Kerry campaign and MoveOn.org, you have to wonder what hiring someone who considers Hitler comparisons to be legitimate political discourse says about the Kerry campaign,” Gillespie said in a statement issued Wednesday.

  6. JayTea says:

    Suzy, I hope you don’t mind my lifting your work here for my own piece on Wizbang this morning (http://wizbangblog.com/archives/003397.php). I gave you and Blogs For Bush full credit, though. You saved me several hours of digging.

    No, that’s not true. Your piece actually was about half the inspiration for it. I wouldn’t have even started the piece if it wasn’t for your posting. You have my gratitude.

    J.

  7. justaguy says:

    http://69.44.60.22/POW_Drive_In_Confusion.pdf

    “Four heckling women infilltrated a press conference called by John Kerry yesterday to accuse the President of using the prisoners of war for political purposes. In voices shaking with nerves and rage, the ladies in the back of the room, all relatives of POW’s accused Kerry of using the prisoners for his own political purposes. “What are you running for now Mr. Kerry?” screamed one of the disrupters.
    Other POW kin who had gathered with Kerry to demand action on the Viet Cong’s recent prisoner release proposal were the targets of some of the ladies taunts: “You’re stupid, Kerry is using you to run for office.” The four noisily stampeded out. They were under the escort of a representative of The Veterans of Foreign Wars, which regards the stylish and eloquent Kerry spokesman for the Vietnam Veterans Against the War as public enemy number one.”

  8. -S- says:

    About this…http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/graphics/KerryNewsConference1971NYTp3.jpg…Kerry “exploiting P.O.W.” issue…is there anything ACTUAL about John Kerry’s history that the Demos are even taking into consideration?

    He has a stormy past, no doubt about it, but mostly a storym past in politics based upon naysaying and denigrating veterans, the military, the United States in it’s use of military and diplomatic policies. So, is there anything that Kerrry DOES think is worthwhile about the U.S.? I get the impression this morning that his and the Demos general theme for “government” by the Demos is that “the U.S. is bad.”

    But, specifically, about Kerry, he’s someone who has gone far to the Left into foreign force land. Meaning, he’s built a career legacy upon undermining U.S. policies and persons. With the exception of Rassman, apparently, and a few other vets and Senator Kennedy and friendly neighbors in Idaho and the East Coast. But, politically, he does not have a legacy of “friendliness” to and about the U.S. The P.O.W. issue is horrible, where Kerry’s actions are concerned.

  9. -S- says:

    That letter from McAuliffe is priceless. If it wasn’t so audaciously evidencing that again John Kerry blatantly lied about there being “no connection between the Kerry campaign and Moveon.org.” (Did Kerry refer to the moveon.org ADS instead and not to the organization itself? In which case, he slimed his way out of that one, but it’s my impression that he continues to allege that there’s “no connection” between the Kerry campaign and moveon, something that is so blatantly awfully incorrect as to make me think Kerry doesn’t even know his own campaign.)

    And, I’d read before about the Zack guy going from moveon.org to Kerry’s campaign. They made a big publicity push (well, announcement) about the guy’s placement with the Kerry campaign from moveon when it took place a while ago. I used to receive moveon.org e-mails until I couldn’t stand what they wrote any longer…it was pretty horrible content.

  10. -S- says:

    About Kerry’s ongoing and persistent “Christmas in Cambodia” STORY (as in, fantasy) that has been routinely ignored by the media (up until this last few days, it appears, at least until “Unfit to Command” was released), Kerry even made several entries on the record in the Senate and in Committee hearings over the decades about the “seared” memory of being in Cambodia at Christmas…

    He’s maintained the ruse for so many years and only now has been forced to declare that it was never accurate. But, no one has confronted him about WHY HE WAS LYING ABOUT THAT FOR SO MANY YEARS and in such formal, sworn declarations.

    Which is the actual issue to me, why he lied and for so long and, ahem, under many oaths, apparently, at least from what I’ve heard lately (I just read something yesterday that listed the specific and individual statements Kerry made to this effect about that one story alone, and even on “Meet the Press” it was reviewed in the most glaring reiterations, and a few of those was in the Senate record).

    He made a big deal out of that point in some apparent effort to discredit the Executive Branch…that he was in Cambodia and it was being declared all along that he wasn’t, by Nixon (who wasn’t even the President when he was allegedly there, so couldn’t have been dissing Kerry or anyone else about where they were or were not as to U.S. Military actions), and, anyway, Kerry seems to have used the “Christmas in Cambodia” story to make himself a sorta “military victim” by saying he was there, that the official stories were that he wasn’t and that he was betrayed by that.

    Actually, now we find out that he was the betrayer. That Kerry betrayed by persisting in this lie and for the reasons he persisted in the lie…to discredit the military, the U.S. government. My take on it, anyway.

    Otherwise, what the heck has been his point with this ongoing fantasy? Why even imagine it, otherwise, much less persist in using the fantasy and to make what point if not to denigrate the U.S. government (various) for, as per Kerry’s perspective, not supporting him, not acknowledging his whereabouts WHEN HE WAS NEVER THERE SO HOW COULD ANYONE VERIFY WHERE HE WASN’T. It’s like some crazy spy story by Kerry.

  11. -S- says:

    J.:

    O.K., but I haven’t read Wizbang! yet this morning, but I thank you for letting me know…I’ll take a look in a few minutes.

  12. -S- says:

    O.K., thanks for clarifying the “V” clerical issue in those Kerry citation copies on that forum.

    I read that part but wasn’t sure if that was the point or not, or if there was another issue that I was missing. About that clerical oddity (“V” issue in the Kerry citations), seems that unless that’s a routine style that was also in use for thousands of other, similar or parallel citation write-ups for others in the military — if it’s limited to Kerry’s citations and never occurs/appears in anyone else’s in citation write-ups — unless it’s limited to Kerry’s specifically, then there’s not so much of a notice there. If it IS limited to Kerry’s only, and/or Kerry’s and just a few others, then there’s more of a story there, or, at least something related that is unique among the many other hundreds of thousands of citations that were written-up.

    And, I agree, that there’s no surprise there that the media has nearly completely ignored coverage of Kerry the person and up until the Swiftvets’ stories were noticed, the media has appeared to be actually defending Kerry, behaving quite similarly to, say, moveon.org. It’s disappointing but, I agree, not surprising, since so many people who are working in media are very leftwing and apparently all among those are Kerry apologists.

    It’s not surprising but it sure is embarrassing for any appreciation of the long-gone notorious “free press” reputation for American media. It’s not free, it’s liberal and it’s very expensively liberal, at the expense of information and balance, both on the page and in the intent.

  13. -S- says:

    From this old news article, earlier link provided in the comments section…http://69.44.60.22/POW_Drive_In_Confusion.pdf…………….07/23/71

    “…A middle-aged American from Colorado, Richard Sigler, who sone was captured in April 1967, told of kerry’s gathering yesterday of a League meeting at Lowrie Air Force Base recently at which the families were instructed by administration spokesmen not to say anything that would “upset the balance.”

    So, O.K., now it looks more and more that Kerry and fellow Democrats really had it in for Nixon from the Kennedy point forward and Kerry was doing anything and everything to just get a “hate Nixon” thing going. I paraphrase dramatically but it really does look that Kerry had a plan to even go to Vietnam and that was what he took up when he came back…all four months later…to go around getting the heat turned up to make Nixon out to be the Big Bad President. And used the P.O.W. situation not to help the P.O.W. situation but to use them for his anti-Nixon method.

  14. -S- says:

    About the Anarchists and their plans to disrupt the RNC Convention, I was curious last week about the Annenberg Foundation’s efforts, and funding from Teresa Heinz-Kerry to them and other such groups,
    there is this article available on “Fact Check” website (which is funded by the Wallis Annenberg Foundation, and which website includes who I think it’s a safe bet to suggest are incredibly liberal “fact checkers” and other staff…so, I don’t know how “factual” the fact-checking actually is, is what I’m saying, other than it’s well funded by an honorable source but so is, apparently, moveon, so you have to take into consideration when reading these “fact checking” sites just what facts they’re “checking” and what they chose to overlook and even omit in their various reviews, much less ignore, all to arrive at the “fact” that was their original objective and that is, like many of the other liberal “fact check” liberal sites, is to arrive at a liberal conclusion and discredit any questions that don’t support what they want to conclude instead).

    Anyway, site article is this, that defends Teresa Heinz-Kerry as to radical groups that she funds and does not fund, but I don’t know how accurate or thorough it is.

    ON THE OTHER HAND, she does provide funding to the TIDES Center, and that’s one that’s hard to trace, as it is for and about other wealthy philanthropists and/or investors who want to provide funding to groups without being linked to them.

  15. -S- says:

    About this article (link earlier in comments here), it is also my take on Kerry, same as the writer concludes. Kerry assuming he could pick and chose his type of service…never assuming he’d even be questioned in his lifetime about his behaviors, even considering his behaviors as being heroic, these things all create for me about the person an image of a very, very arrogant and cowardly person. I think he committed terrible harm against the military and has yet to even understand that he should apologize for his behaviors that harmed other personnel. The article does describe well what it is I think about Kerry in this context.

  16. justaguy says:

    I think it was O’Reilly that called Teresa out…in regards to the Ruckus Society…I wonder what he’ll think about the news.